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I say America is not under God's Judgment but the Church is under God's Judgement.?

November 12, 2018 by
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Ann Morrissey Eul
 
? I am not even sure what you are asking...seriously...I don't think God judges 'groups'...He judges individuals. Yes? and..HE wants us to succeed...
Richard Hertz
I was unsure of which church was under judgement. Confusing question. Makes me feel better about the wording on my questions.
CAROL MORRISON
What is confusing about agree or disagree with the statement.
Lewis Neidhardt
Which church, Carol? From the capitalization, I'm assuming the Roman Catholic Church, but that is somewhat limiting for God's jugement and lets the Baptists and Mormons and such off the hook.
Norm Simpson
The Catholic church is a fake, Man made Church, it is Not one of the Church's the Bible mentions...
CAROL MORRISON
What is confusing about agree or disagree with the statement.
CAROL MORRISON
What is confusing about agree or disagree with the statement.
CAROL MORRISON
He judged Israel did he not??
CAROL MORRISON
Do you agree or disagree with the statement and why. Explain to me why is that so hard to comprehend.
Richard Hertz
I fail to understand the question as worded, and those capable of critical thinking, are left in a quandary as to whether they agree or disagree. You wrote a declarative statement, but put a question mark after the period. It's not a well crafted sentence if you had left off the question mark. The s...
CAROL MORRISON
Statement made now do you agree or disagree with the statement and explain why. Gees it is that simple.
Larry New
 
Disagree.All mankind,no exception, has been under Gods judgment from the first act of disobedience.Man separated himself from God at that moment.Man was then separated from life by the punishment of death.Judgment works two ways .You are either found worthy or guilty by your choice as to who you ser...
Larry New
 
Oh,it states your poll is still pending approval.
Mod Admin
If you think that is something, it shows this poll was done last month and I check for new polls several times a day. I'm not sure which is right here. Site glitch maybe??
Ann Morrissey Eul
 
Naw, just forgot to click the timestamp so it wasn't appearing...My bad.

OOPS...I put this response in the wrong place...please see below...lol
Larry New
 
More than likely
CAROL MORRISON
where does it state that is pending approval. I guess you are seeing more than I am.
Larry New
 
When I picked my choice.
Mod Admin
Carol, I'm curious. Do you remember when you created this poll? When I approved it, it said it was waiting for approval for a couple weeks but it was the first time I saw it. It also had some comments on it as well. I check several times a day so either the site has a glitch or something else we...
Ann Morrissey Eul
 
WHAHHHH!!!!
Ann Morrissey Eul
 
Why did you delete my comment, Carol?

God does not judge 'groups' he judges individuals.
Mod Admin
Only deleted comment was deleted by Larry New, his own comment that appears to have been sort of a duplicate, with some errors. That comment was made within a hour of this post. That's the only removal I see. Thinking of another thread maybe??
Larry New
 
Yep.Mine duplicated .It does that quite often.
CAROL MORRISON
I did not delete your
comment,
Norm Simpson
I don't know what "Bible" you read, but the Holy Bible, KJV, tells us that God Judges Nations, and Individuals...
Doug Nunnally  (Deplorable
Why does god need to judge us if he's already decided and aware of the outcome? Why find fault with imperfect beings, created in your own image, that you know will disappoint you? Why do we even bother if we know the inevitable outcome?
Larry Major
The Bible tells us that we all have sinned and fall short and we need forgiveness as we repent and then we can be in a relationship with God we can not when we do not ask for it however.
John 3:16 for God so loved the world that He gave his only son for our sins .
Larry New
 
It was not Gods intent for man to do wrong,Doug. It was mans choice.Man was created to have dominion over the Earth.Sin was not a factor until Man rebelled by disobedience.
Ann Morrissey Eul
 
I guess I have a viewpoint that won't be popular with some: I think God made us to be fallible...with the hopes of learning and growing. I think he made us imperfect....with the hopes of us growing from the egocentric we are born as...into the compassionate souls that resembles the son he sacrific...
Larry New
 
So you are saying God isn't perfect.Man fell after disobedience.God didn't.What does being made in His Image mean to you? That He is imperfect? It isn't what scripture says.I'm drawing my conclusion by what He told Moses to write,not what you are saying.
Ann Morrissey Eul
 
I am not sure why you are assuming because he made us imperfect...that he is....
Larry New
 
I am not sure why you are assuming or claiming God made man imperfect.There is no scripture to back your claim until after Mans fall..God made man in His image.God is perfect.Matt.5:48,Psalms 50:2,Deut.32:4.God walked with Man until he fell from his status by disobedience.Man was not created imperfe...
Ann Morrissey Eul
 
Man is imperfect....no assumption at all
CAROL MORRISON
God made us to have choices, why do you think that God made us to have choices in life??
Mick Hargrave
Why "Either Or"? God can judge both at the same time as well as individuals.
Harry Hondalon
One thing I've learned about this site Carol, It's best not to broach the topic of God on here too many people have too many opinions of who, what, where, when, why, and how God is God.
Larry New
 
Pretty easy to present statements from a Bible.All you have to do is read it.Putting your thoughts into what it says is where it gets corrupted.
Richard Stewart
Both! America because it has fallen away from God and the Church for the same reason.
CAROL MORRISON
Where does God's judgment being at? When you find that scripture you will have your answer.
CAROL MORRISON
You ever wonder why Roe vs Wade was passed and not a word out of the church, have you ever wondered why prayer and God was taken out of the schools and not a word out of the church Have you ever wonder why Homosexuality became the law in our land, and the church sat back quietly not saying a word, ...
Steve Johnson (EC)
 
Not sure what church you attend, but mine has spoken out on all those issue repeatedly and loudly. Maybe you need to find a new church.
CAROL MORRISON
Is you chruch 502(c)3 complaint?
Richard Hertz
My church and ministry isn't 501(c)(3) compliant, and I talk politics every week, and relate it to church tenets. I fund my own ministry, take no salary, and all collection proceeds are donated to charitable causes, or a member of my church going through a difficult time. 501 (c) (3) is for the scam...
CAROL MORRISON
and yet here we are all three was passed, why??
Lewis Neidhardt
None of the three was passed, Carol. They were all SCOTUS decisions based on their interpretation of the Constitution, not their interpretation of religious dogma.
There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of Christian denominations in the country. Even if it were allowed by the Constitution, how would we...
CAROL MORRISON
So your saying they are unlawful since they were not passed according to the Constitution. Oh by the way it was mostly a Republican appointed Supreme Court that unlawfully passed these things.
CAROL MORRISON
so how do you think God is going to judge the millions of babies that has been slaughtered under the row vs wade unlawful passing.
Lewis Neidhardt
No, Carol, I was trying to explain the difference in a bill being passed and a SCOTUS decision.
When the SC hands down a decision, it's not unlawful, even if you disagree. The proper recourse is a constitutional amendment to address the issue.
As far as how God will judge aborted babies, I have no i...
CAROL MORRISON
Are they active in our government or just preach behind the pulpit and do not put legs to their words.
Steve Johnson (EC)
 
Wow, so judgmental. Exactly what have YOU done to stop all three? Remember, Carol, when you point a finger in blame, there are THREE MORE pointing back at YOU.
CAROL MORRISON
So since I say all these things were passed and the chruch stood by and did nothing I am judgemental. I wonder how God will judge them.
CAROL MORRISON
Steve how is God going to judge the church? The church is to be the light of the world and conscious of a country. Read the first 5 books of the bible what did he do to his own people, that disobeyed him, and went abhorring after other gods.
Steve Johnson (EC)
 
Once more, Carol, what did YOU do to stop this? You are as guilty as everyone else you blame. You're hands are as dirty as the next persons.
CAROL MORRISON
what did you do to stop it? What did the church do to stop it? You can get anger at me but you need to read the word of God and not condemn those that speak the truth.
CAROL MORRISON
I was a teenager when Roe vs Wade was passed and I heard people saying we must not get involved in political things. Well you can get anger at me and you can defend the church all you want, but God see the millions of babies being slaughtered in our country and now homosexuality has become a realit...
CAROL MORRISON
If the chruch does not wake up they will suffer the consequence so go ahead and get anger at me. But God judges the chruch first. 1 Peter 4:17
King James Bible
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not t...
CAROL MORRISON
How do you think that God will judge the American Church?
Larry Major
If my people who are called by my name will turn from their wicked ways and humble themselves and pray .
CAROL MORRISON
I believe that Obama was a wake up call to the people that call themselves a child of God. I also see that God has placed Trump in the white house to see if those that call themselves his children will stand behind him or will go against him. I find those that stand against him. I wonder how God ...
CAROL MORRISON
How long do you think that God's spirit (Holy Spirit) will strive with man?
Sunny VZ
 
When His church leaves this earth, the Holy Spirit will leave with them.
CAROL MORRISON
give me the scripture that is based on.
Larry New
 
There is no scripture that says that.There will be many saved in the tribulation and no-one is saved without the leading of the Spirit.
CAROL MORRISON
Let me tell you of a dream I had few years ago, I was dreaming of babies crying out, screaming why was I not allowed to live, what was my crime that I was not allowed to breath my first breathe of life. I woke up and a thought hit me, this is what God is hearing coming from our Country. The blood ...
CAROL MORRISON
You can get anger at me and you can blame me for things, but it does not explain the churches failures and of their leaders.
Larry New
 
Scripture explains the failure of the Church.Complacent churches are full of complacent people believing they are going to be saved .There are warnings all through the Book of Revelation about this.They are told what they must do in order to be saved.Repent.(turn away from)
Mick Hargrave
Yep the Letters to the Seven Churches is a guide.
CAROL MORRISON
You best wake up and see things as they actually are, not how you want them to be. Churches are starting to marry homosexual, they are accepting abortion as a right. May not be the church you are attending but it is happening.
Mick Hargrave
You seem to have forgotten it is the American Government that gave permission for Abortion with Roe Vs. Wade and the American Government that gave permission for Gay Marriage. Since the Government is "By the People" "For the People" it is "We the People" that are the Government and we are all under ...
David Crane
What saith the Scriptures?
Norm Simpson
Yes, God Does Judge Nations, and people...so there ya go.